The Warforge Miniature Modelling and Conversion


Jan
2008
710:13
pm

P.S. – It’s shorter

Bit of an addendum - this is about as low as I can easily take the chassis without having problems with the deathroller's size and having to hack up the entire front end.

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I think I was trying to overcompensate a bit - Orchead's is built up significantly at the top which is what makes it so large, but since mine hasn't been topped yet I still had the urge to get the same kind of height out of it.

Jan
2008
79:27
pm

Lining up the tread links

I'm still not sure how the best way to assemble this is, given all the changes I have planned - it seems like one modification would get in the way of me adding another, leaving me scratching my head while the model doesn't get done. I'm trying to fight off the complications in the project by pinning the track links together - I ran some wire through the treads so they're connected, but not glued, and pinned a couple of my cast wheels onto the thing just to figure out their spacing and placement. I'm not going to lie to you, it looks pretty stupid right now, but I'm going to say that it's simply because all of the things that will be covered with armor plating are just open space right now.

I think the body is actually sitting a tiny bit higher than I'll want it finalized at right now - I'll lower it a couple mm or so. I'm trying to get the front wheel to stick out a decent amount so it will line up with the central hub on the deathroller - that way, the roller is powered by the track wheel mechanism to spin. It's all still very rough right now, I just thought I'd get some feedback on general form. The front section of the track guard will be covered up similar to Orchead's baneblade so the tracks don't end up looking quite so silly.

Jan
2008
71:42
pm

Rolling details

I felt like detailing the deathroller a bit, so I spent some time cutting and drilling and gluing all the tedious, tiny little pieces. It's not hard work, just time-consuming, but I can do it while I watch TV at least.

I have the wheels I need for the tracks all ready and done, but I'm having a hard time of sorting out the order I need to work on things in. Part of me wants to put the tracks on so I have a fixed height for the model, but the other part wants the open space in the track guards so I can do things like wire lighting through easily or add ramps. Not to mention I've no idea yet how I'm going to be putting the track wheels and treads together! Really not sure what to attack next. I might make the barrel for the main gun when I next have free time while I consider it all.

Jan
2008
69:09
am

Deathroller 101… sort of.

I love the Forgeworld Deathroller, but it's a pricy piece of kit and I kind've wanted to challenge myself with making one. I've never built one before, and the curved surfaces are hell to make, but I think what I've produced so far is reasonably good. I documented my process so that you guys might have some idea what went on in the hours I had free today.

I started with a medicine bottle of appropriate size and dimensions to create the massive deathroller I wanted. I also obtained 'cake shapers' from a craft store near me, JoAnns, when they were having their going out of business sale. I have no idea what these things are actually supposed to be used for, but to me they look like they would make mighty fine roller plating.

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This saved me the massive headache of trying to heat and bend the styrene to armor-plate the deathroller, or using brute force like rubber bands to try and keep it stuck down - I've tried stuff like that in the past and it always tends to peel up at the edges.

I figured I'd make three evenly spaced armor strips on the roller, with a wider gap on the sides of the middle plate strip so that I could put spikes around the roller like the forgeworld design has. The first thing I had to do was set up my mitre box so that I could get straight and similarly-sized strips of curved plastic.

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I put a pair of clamps onto the mitre box to make sure I would get strips of styrene of identical widths for the plating.

I cut a number of strips up and started fitting them onto the bottle. The outer strips were much easier to line up than the middle one - I could just stand the bottle up flush against my worksurface to make sure the plates were glued on evenly. I think I did decently well, though.

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I marked off dots for where I wanted to put some rivets, and stuck the plastic rod I have around into holes I drilled out with a pin vice, then snipped the excess rod. I also whipped out a sheet of thick styrene and a heavy-duty knife and started cutting the little 'teeth' I needed for the roller - after about an hour of hacking and gluing, I had a basic deathroller!

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I only put the spiked teeth around the front 1/3 or so of the deathroller, as the rest will be concealed by the tank itself - no sense troubling myself over detailing stuff nobody will see.

Here's what it looks like 'fitted' (positioned) onto the baneblade:

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I understand this isn't exactly a proper tutorial on building the roller - after all, it requires some fairly specific pieces (cake shapers?) and is not too thorough, but I'm trying to properly document the creation of this thing, so there you go.

The roller's not actually done yet - I need to cut a styrene disc out to cap the open end of the medicine bottle off, add some more details to the large flat curved plates, and add some details to the sides where it will connect onto the tank. Still, not bad for today's free time.

Jan
2008
58:34
pm

Chassis and a plan

I assembled the general top chassis a little while ago after dremelling the wheels molded onto the interior sides.

This is an understandably early step to be posting stuff up about, but I want to make sure my foray into possibly mangling a baneblade is well-documented. :)   It seemed like with a general chassis to build upon, a proper plan was needed. This is the general concept I came up with:

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The medicine bottle is there to stand in for a death roller. I'm really not sure what I want to do with the top aside from a really big gun, but a modified turret doesn't look so bad. The grot bomb launcher ramp is on the top of the baneblade, but I think it's probably a bad spot for it as it would block the gun's rotation... depends on how I end up building it, honestly, because I may be able to make it so the barrel is able to clear the ramp. Then again, the gun doesn't necessarily have to rotate, either. I want to cut boarding ramps into the side of the thing - I'm thinking maybe a pair on either side. I'd love to get some ideas on this. :)

I'd love to get some ideas on this.

Jan
2008
510:17
am

Has to start somewhere

I was lucky enough to get a Baneblade around Christmas, and since my next two weeks or so are free before I have to get back to school it seemed only right that I start working on turning this imperial tank to the greenskin side. I've been planning and thinking a little bit while working on my new Trukk kit, and now that it's over with I have a couple rough ideas of what I want to do.

My goals with this are:

  • To have a superheavy tank that I can run as either a Skullhamma, a looted Baneblade, or a looted Hellhammer. I plan on using it primarily as a Skullhamma because it is a pretty great transport. For the last two, I would basically pay the points cost of the tanks out of the apocalypse book, make the entire tank BS2, and ditch the special rules like the commissariat entirely. It probably wouldn't be worth the points cost by then, but damnit it will be fun.
  • To put a deathroller on the front of the baneblade. I can't help myself, I just really need to put one on here. I don't think any form of the baneblade can actually take a deathroller - even the skullhamma doesn't have one - but I feel a tugging need to do it.
  • One big, beefy, souped-up engine similar to the one on the Forgeworld Battlewagon
  • Lights!

After hashing this out a bit, I tried coming up with what I thought was a decent rough sketch.

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Despite the fact that the plan looks like it was drawn up by a five-year-old with a sharpie, you get the general idea of what I was thinking. However, this has a number of problems, not least of which was that the deathroller blocked off a gun.

I started thinking about it a little bit and after a little searching 'round The-Waaagh.com's Mek Garage, I found my holy grail for the project: A baneblade made by 'Orchead the Red'. I think his site is down, but you used to be able to see pictures of it here. It is beautiful, and based of the Forgeworld Baneblade if I'm not mistaken.

His baneblade immediately piqued my interest, as it not only had the deathroller on the front, but it lifted the entire chassis up in a way such as to fit it in a much more appropriate spot. Unfortunately, the parts used to make this model are absurdly expensive - I believe there was a forgeworld ork rhino in there, two deathrollers, a couple grot bombs, not to mention the actual baneblade itself. With all that said, though, it gave me a lot to think about.

I would have sketched a new design out after having seen this, but honestly it seemed like a waste of time since this thing is blueprints enough for me right now. I'm going to be emulating Orchead's general design in lifting the chassis with a couple of my own kustom modifications - I won't be buying any forgeworld parts for this, except maybe one grot bomb if I can find one anywhere. I'll be using some of the newer ork parts from the trukk sprues that I have left over, and scratchbuilding the rest! Hopefully by the time I am done, I will have a worthy rival to this juicy warmachine.

So, with all that planning, I had to start somewhere. It took me a few hours to carefully cut and clean all of the parts from the Baneblade sprues. I've left the tracks and the really tiny detail parts on them for the time being to better keep track of them. Here's my bin-o-tank-parts:

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One of the first things I did was trim the 'frills' from around the outer track guard edge - if I am going to anchor side track armor from them, those little detail bits around the tracks have to go. (See the picture back up at the top around the bottom near the tracks for an idea of what I'm talking about).

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Despite appearances, I managed to remove the plastic frills sticking out off the bottom of these plates fairly smoothly. There were one or two spots where the knife (or I) had a bit of a hiccup, but those are easily patched over later on.

However, I very quickly realized this conversion was not going to be as easy as I had hoped. You see, there's a problem with the wheels. The unfortunate fact of the Games Workshop baneblade is that the tank wheels are not separate pieces.

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As you can see, the wheels on the inside of the tank are cast into the body, while the outer wheels are all stuck together like shown. This makes raising the chassis of the tank problematic, as the wheels all need to be lowered. What's a mek to do?

Well, there's something of a solution. It involves the ever-villified casting of parts.

The Baneblade kit comes with two 'free' wheels on either side of the tracks for the ones that stick out significantly in the front and back from the tread guard - this means each baneblade essentially comes with the parts to make four separate, loose wheels that are not molded into the body of the tank. If you take a look, you'll see that these have teeth on the back to mesh with the treads:

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I snipped those teeth clean off so that the tank wheels would sit flush on their backs.

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Why?

Put simply, I'm going to be casting these 'hubcaps' so that they can be used to cap off my own custom-made tank wheels. I know people have a habit of getting up in arms about casting in general, and this might get me in a tiny bit of trouble, but I think I am justified in my need to do so with this project - there is no other way of aquiring the necessary parts short of scratchbuilding identically, intricately detailed tank wheels, and that is a feat I don't think I'm up to. I'd gladly buy them from GW or even BWBits if they were available, but they're not. I'm not going to go into the process of casting them here simply because I don't want to cause too much trouble, but basically while I work on the top part of the tank I will be creating the 20-some wheels I need for the 'lifting' process, as well.

So, these are my beginnings. I already have a (cunning?) plan for how I am going to be manufacturing the deathroller, but my priority in the next few days is to work on assembling the top of the tank up to par prior to mounting the body on a new, lifted tread assembly.

Jan
2008
311:38
am

Rear end up to snuff

I have been busy as all hell with something of an early spring cleaning, even though the frost on my window is making it perfectly clear to me that calling it that is wishful thinking. Still, I've been able to put up a number of shelves and lights and generally improve my working area over the past day and a half or so, which was a nice break from the project. I also had the chance to grab some styrene tubing in abundance this morning, and so when my workspace was sort've clear-ish, I tried to finish the back end of the trukk up a bit. Here's what I came up with.

You'll notice I stuck with the boarding plank. This is half because I want to make sure I have it represented on the model, because it sounds like such a fun upgrade, and half because the way it looks grew on me a bit. I capped the legos off with a sort of bumper, smacked a lightning bolt on each, added some beefy exhaust pipes and other worky-looking tubes, and riveted it all up. I also added a license plate of sorts just underneath the ramp - my battlewagon had a license plate (DED 'ARD) and this will certainly have to have one marked D4KK4.

I think I'm going to leave the rollbar at the midsection of the trukk be. I kept picturing a rollbar system, but I don't think the trukk needs it and the more I load onto it, the less speedy it looks.

I actually think it's damn near done, save for perhaps the addition of some exhaust stacks up around the cabin area and a few touchups in select spots.

Jan
2008
17:50
pm

Boarding ramp action!

Alright, so I shortened the ramp up and attached it with a pair of pins just to see how I like it. I guess it's not bad?

I could shorten it up so it hangs vertically, but I think this length isn't bad. It's not exactly practical for boarding other vehicles unless the orks decide to periodically drive the thing 'round in reverse, but I suppose that's a possibility. Actually, I can picture them skidding up next to a vehicle and swinging the rear around to throw the plank down, I suppose.

Is this good?

Jan
2008
16:33
pm

Ideas for the rear

Messing around with a couple rough concepts for the back. It'll obviously need some form of exhaust pipe, but I'm sort've thinking I want to put some sort of support for orks to board it. I was just testing out a Cities of Death ladder to start with, and I kind've like it but I'm not sure.

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Could probably hack it just below the 3rd rung... I don't know, though. I also thought of using one of the boarding ramps on the back, but I really don't like the way it looks when it's folded up - it throws off the vehicle's profile a bit.

I need some more ideas.

Jan
2008
15:30
pm

Somebody at the wheel

The driver was blissfully simple compared to the rest of the model. I hacked the rollbar off his seat that comes on the stock truck because I did not like the way it looked, and I replaced his head. Rather than the head that comes with the trukk sprue, I decided to use one of the Burna Boy heads from the new Spearhead - I think this one's really got a good, Mad Max-esque look to him. I'm not going to put a windshield up on him either in the thought that he would probably wear all that stuff on his head instead. He's removable so I can paint him and the things around him easier.

After a bit of digging, I've found that I don't have the right diameter styrene tubing handy to make two big vertical exhaust pipes by the cab like I would want, so I'm going to have to wait till the shop is open tomorrow to grab the stuff I need. I thought I might work a bit on the bed area, but... I can't think of anything. All I've done is stick one tiny gun on a rack back there.

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I need to conceal the lego svisible in the back there and I'm thinking maybe one hanging armor plate off the back might take care of it. I've messed around with the idea of using one of the trukk's boading planks in the back, but I just don't like the way it looks when it's folded up, and the planks no longer fit on the sides because of the track guards.

There's a second rollbar on the sprue that I can put up in the back, too, but I'm not sure if I want to do that just yet simply because I kind've like how open it is right now.

I'm totally open to ideas, but I don't think I want to move the outer rear walls any.